Pack Leader Psychology on the Radio: Sharks & Success!

Tune in to two web radio shows to learn more about Pack Leader Psychology.

Bill Horan hosted me on “Secrets of Success” on WHPC-FM 90.3 FM in Nassau, New York. Tune in Aug. 28 from 4-4:30 pm or Sept. 1 from 7:30-8 am EDT. Or go to to listen any time.

On Friday, Aug. 30 at 10 am PT listen as Sharkie Zartman and I compare notes on animal wisdom. She is author of “Shark Sense,” which uses stories and shark behaviors to empower us toward our dreams. She is also a fitness expert and college instructor, former national volleyball team member, UCLA All American, and pro player. If you miss the show, you can also download a podcast to listen any time at

Thanks to these great interviewers!

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